Discussion about this post

User's avatar
Ravikanth Maturu's avatar

If a sequence of events leads to a hazardous situation and the hazardous situation does not lead to a harm then it's simply "No Risk".

If a hazardous situation is assessed to be not having a substantial magnitude of severity then I would identify those at PHA phase and explain why I won't consider those hazardous situations in my risk analysis instead of simply estimating them as insignificant severity (s1) and not increasing my rmf with lots of such SoE's.

Expand full comment
Ian Sealey's avatar

I wonder whether, perhaps, the question was asked solely from the perspective of risk evaluation, rather than from the perspective of the risk management process as a whole. For the sake of keeping consistency with the question's reference to ISO/TR 24971:2020, EXAMPLE 1 at subclause 7.1.1 is perhaps useful:

'EXAMPLE 1 Eliminating the hazard of sharp edges that can cause injury by designing the surfaces with rounded edges. Eliminating the hazard of electric shock by using a manually operated pump instead of an electrical pump.'

Taking the example of the hazard of electric shock, it would result in a number of probabilistic hazardous situations, which, in turn would result in a number of associated probabilistic harms. The severities of those harms would span through those of Table 2 or Table 4 of ISO/TR 24971:2020. At this point, the risk - the combination of the probability of occurrence of harm and the severity of that harm - is entirely uncontrolled; an unmitigated risk.

The risk control is applied: no electricity.

At residual risk evaluation the hazard has been eliminated, meaning severity must tend to the lowest level; zero, in fact. Per NOTE 2, subclause 7.1, ISO 14971:2019:

'NOTE 2 Risk control measures can reduce the severity of the harm or reduce the probability of occurrence of the harm, or both.'

You simply cannot cut yourself with a jelly. Well, not unless it is frozen or moving at high speed.

The risk control in the ISO/TR 24971:2020 example patently introduces a new set of hazards and resultant hazardous situations, which is why subclause 7.5 of ISO 14971:2019 is not merely a tick box exercise.

As a final observation, neither Table 2 nor Table 4 contain an exclusive 'no injury' entry.

Expand full comment
6 more comments...

No posts